Comments for Thinking Aloud http://www.bishopdavid.net Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:55:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 Comment on Step forward Poirot by david http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1607&cpage=1#comment-8157 david Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:43:36 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1607#comment-8157 Bit technical that for me, Freddy. But it may have something to do with failure of Gyrocompass which severed all communications for about five days. Italian captain said reassuringly, 'We navigate like Captain Cook' Bit technical that for me, Freddy. But it may have something to do with failure of Gyrocompass which severed all communications for about five days. Italian captain said reassuringly, ‘We navigate like Captain Cook’

]]> Comment on Step forward Poirot by Freddie Moran http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1607&cpage=1#comment-8151 Freddie Moran Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:37:23 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1607#comment-8151 Look like you are enjoying yourself, Castletownbere and West of Ireland is superb - Circumnavigation of Ireland 2009 - http://www.maloyachts.se/Default.aspx?tabid=251 - Take it you are on the Minerva - http://www.swanhellenic.com/ship.html?shipid=895&pagetype=5 Can you ask the captain why he is not sending out an AIS signal as all ships should be doing - then a lot easier to follow your progress !!! Enjoy. Look like you are enjoying yourself, Castletownbere and West of Ireland is superb - Circumnavigation of Ireland 2009 - http://www.maloyachts.se/Default.aspx?tabid=251 - Take it you are on the Minerva - http://www.swanhellenic.com/ship.html?shipid=895&pagetype=5
Can you ask the captain why he is not sending out an AIS signal as all ships should be doing - then a lot easier to follow your progress !!! Enjoy.

]]> Comment on Step forward Poirot by Jimmy http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1607&cpage=1#comment-8149 Jimmy Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:16:10 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1607#comment-8149 Not sure why but I always expect Poirot to say "It was me." Orkney is a lovely island, I spent a week there with my family many years ago. I wanted to go there this summer but "computer said no." Not sure why but I always expect Poirot to say “It was me.” Orkney is a lovely island, I spent a week there with my family many years ago. I wanted to go there this summer but “computer said no.”

]]> Comment on Step forward Poirot by Tim http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1607&cpage=1#comment-8148 Tim Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:54:22 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1607#comment-8148 But we all *know* it'll be you, in the vestry, with the crozier! ;) (For CoE values of vestry in this case.) But we all *know* it’ll be you, in the vestry, with the crozier! ;)

(For CoE values of vestry in this case.)

]]> Comment on Step forward Poirot by Erp http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1607&cpage=1#comment-8147 Erp Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:13:05 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1607#comment-8147 I suspect most country house or shipboard mysteries have at most one clergyman. And does the ship have a bulldog called Huxley to stand guard in the lounge.... I suspect most country house or shipboard mysteries have at most one clergyman.

And does the ship have a bulldog called Huxley to stand guard in the lounge….

]]> Comment on Home from home by chris http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1605&cpage=1#comment-8145 chris Sat, 21 Aug 2010 18:18:29 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1605#comment-8145 That last sentence makes me think of rough seas. I can't think why. That last sentence makes me think of rough seas. I can’t think why.

]]> Comment on Stumped by Graham Vahey http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584&cpage=1#comment-8131 Graham Vahey Thu, 05 Aug 2010 09:57:20 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584#comment-8131 The lumping of child sex abusers with the dignity of women is most offensive. The Roman Church is male dominated and extremely dogmatic. In the Vatican writings it is clear that they do not see any Christians as belonging even to a Church. Only 'Catholics' ( a misnomer in fact) belong to a Church. The Pontifical Council for Ecumenism has a quite clearly different idea than we do about ecumenism. To our Roman friends ecumenism simply means everyone becoming RC and denouncing their Christian beliefs. That is the bottom line. Whilst we belong to a reformed catholic Church, which is inclusive, we still are refused the Sacrament of HC as Christians as we are not 'Catholic'. Little if anything has changed in the RC Church. The lumping of child sex abusers with the dignity of women is most offensive. The Roman Church is male dominated and extremely dogmatic. In the Vatican writings it is clear that they do not see any Christians as belonging even to a Church. Only ‘Catholics’ ( a misnomer in fact) belong to a Church. The Pontifical Council for Ecumenism has a quite clearly different idea than we do about ecumenism. To our Roman friends ecumenism simply means everyone becoming RC and denouncing their Christian beliefs. That is the bottom line. Whilst we belong to a reformed catholic Church, which is inclusive, we still are refused the Sacrament of HC as Christians as we are not ‘Catholic’. Little if anything has changed in the RC Church.

]]> Comment on Stumped by Father Ron Smith http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584&cpage=1#comment-8129 Father Ron Smith Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:22:54 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584#comment-8129 "The Church regards ordination of woman as attempted ordination and as such is a simulation of a sacrament. The simulation of a sacrament has, even before this document, been punished by automatic excommunication" - Gratianus - Someone needs to infrom Gratianus that his is not the only 'Church' on earth - despite the papal proclamation. A 'papal excommunication' is Rome's attempt to arrogate to herself the 'Care of All The Churches'. However, this exclusive role belongs to no-one but Christ - despite the efforts of various demagogues to credit themselves with this charism. Rome's current decision to roll back the reformation of Vatican II is evidence enough to discredit her claim to infallibility. “The Church regards ordination of woman as attempted ordination and as such is a simulation of a sacrament. The simulation of a sacrament has, even before this document, been punished by automatic excommunication” - Gratianus -

Someone needs to infrom Gratianus that his is not the only ‘Church’ on earth - despite the papal proclamation.

A ‘papal excommunication’ is Rome’s attempt to arrogate to herself the ‘Care of All The Churches’. However, this exclusive role belongs to no-one but Christ - despite the efforts of various demagogues to credit themselves with this charism.

Rome’s current decision to roll back the reformation of Vatican II is evidence enough to discredit her claim to infallibility.

]]> Comment on Stumped by Joe http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584&cpage=1#comment-8125 Joe Sun, 01 Aug 2010 07:08:39 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584#comment-8125 Does the women's ordination lobby realize how much they are damaging their case by trotting out as a talking point that "the Vatican sees child abuse and women priests as equally evil"? This canard has been sufficiently corrected that the tawdriness of this talking point is apparent to any intelligent person. Does the women’s ordination lobby realize how much they are damaging their case by trotting out as a talking point that “the Vatican sees child abuse and women priests as equally evil”? This canard has been sufficiently corrected that the tawdriness of this talking point is apparent to any intelligent person.

]]> Comment on Stumped by Scott http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584&cpage=1#comment-8123 Scott Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:00:22 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584#comment-8123 "... was effectively tying up loose ends..." Therein lies a problem. The tragedy of child abuse by Priests is not a loose end needing tying up. But the tin eared handing by church officials of the scandal started with covering up and, from outside appearance, has now progressed only as far as tying up loose ends. I know this is not fair to the Roman Church, where many are truly heartsick and dedicated to repairing the damage. But it appears that Rome is using the same PR team as BP... appearance matters. “… was effectively tying up loose ends…”

Therein lies a problem. The tragedy of child abuse by Priests is not a loose end needing tying up. But the tin eared handing by church officials of the scandal started with covering up and, from outside appearance, has now progressed only as far as tying up loose ends. I know this is not fair to the Roman Church, where many are truly heartsick and dedicated to repairing the damage. But it appears that Rome is using the same PR team as BP… appearance matters.

]]> Comment on Stumped by Gratianus http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584&cpage=1#comment-8119 Gratianus Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:13:28 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584#comment-8119 Benedict would reply that in drawing closer to Christ we become closer to each other (as he says in one of his books), like spokes heading towards the barrell of a bicycle wheel. This is how our country will be a happier place. Let's be fixated on the Lord and not our own appetites. Benedict would reply that in drawing closer to Christ we become closer to each other (as he says in one of his books), like spokes heading towards the barrell of a bicycle wheel. This is how our country will be a happier place. Let’s be fixated on the Lord and not our own appetites.

]]> Comment on Stumped by Gratianus http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584&cpage=1#comment-8118 Gratianus Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:05:50 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584#comment-8118 Dear RevRuth, I am sorry that you have been given the impression that the matters of child abuse and the discipline of the sacraments regarding ordination have been some how equated. I understand that this may be upsetting. I'd like to explain, as someone who has a little insider knowledge, about why these matters were dealt with together. The document in question covered procedural norms for different areas of the discipline the Church and was effectively tying up loose ends. This document in fact covers other procedural areas (eg. sanctions etc. for mal practice in the Sacrament of Penance). I am told that this kind of ecclectic legislation is not uncommon in civil legisaltures when a group of unconnected matters is grouped together in a single document as a convenient way of dealing with several matters at once. The Church regards ordination of woman as attempted ordination and as such is a simulation of a sacrament. The simulation of a sacrament has, even before this document, been punished by automatic excommunication. This document was merely stipulating the interpretation of Universal Law in particular circumstances and is known as 'Particular Law'. The Church has very few canonical sanctions that it can use but the abuse of the sacraments has always merited the most severe measures. I hope this goes some way as to explaining why this document is structured in the way that it is. I think the Vatican would do well to appoint a new press secretary who could anticpate how the papers will 'spin' such things. It is unfortunate that this has been reported in the way that it has. Let's hope a lesson has been learned by those who write these documents. Sorry to go on, but I am a bit of an anorak when it comes to these things. Take care and God bless. Dear RevRuth, I am sorry that you have been given the impression that the matters of child abuse and the discipline of the sacraments regarding ordination have been some how equated. I understand that this may be upsetting. I’d like to explain, as someone who has a little insider knowledge, about why these matters were dealt with together.
The document in question covered procedural norms for different areas of the discipline the Church and was effectively tying up loose ends. This document in fact covers other procedural areas (eg. sanctions etc. for mal practice in the Sacrament of Penance). I am told that this kind of ecclectic legislation is not uncommon in civil legisaltures when a group of unconnected matters is grouped together in a single document as a convenient way of dealing with several matters at once.
The Church regards ordination of woman as attempted ordination and as such is a simulation of a sacrament. The simulation of a sacrament has, even before this document, been punished by automatic excommunication. This document was merely stipulating the interpretation of Universal Law in particular circumstances and is known as ‘Particular Law’. The Church has very few canonical sanctions that it can use but the abuse of the sacraments has always merited the most severe measures.
I hope this goes some way as to explaining why this document is structured in the way that it is. I think the Vatican would do well to appoint a new press secretary who could anticpate how the papers will ’spin’ such things. It is unfortunate that this has been reported in the way that it has. Let’s hope a lesson has been learned by those who write these documents. Sorry to go on, but I am a bit of an anorak when it comes to these things. Take care and God bless.

]]> Comment on Stumped by AaronO http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584&cpage=1#comment-8117 AaronO Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:51:58 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584#comment-8117 "Have you read article 19?" “Have you read article 19?”

]]> Comment on Stumped by chris http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584&cpage=1#comment-8116 chris Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:06:33 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584#comment-8116 Can I second Ruth's point, please? Can I second Ruth’s point, please?

]]> Comment on Stumped by FrSean http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584&cpage=1#comment-8115 FrSean Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:09:39 +0000 http://www.bishopdavid.net/?p=1584#comment-8115 Love the new video with you sporting the baseball cap. Love the new video with you sporting the baseball cap.

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